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20-7873-20-B155 Hubbardton Forge Lighting Exos Wave Wrought Iron Wall Sconce

$ 884.00 $ 437.00

20-7873-20-B155 Hubbardton Forge Lighting Exos Wave Wrought Iron Wall Sconce   ADA compliant, Damp Rated As shown*: 5.8H x 21W x 3.5 projection Type G9 bulbs (3), 60 watt max, included **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** OPEN BOX  

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2205/AP1 Type : Wall Lights Material : Swarovski Crystal

$ 780.00 $ 343.00

Round Number : 2205/AP1 Type : Wall Lights Material : Swarovski Crystal Dimensions: 3.6"D X 6.0" H X 4.4" Dia. PLEASE NOTE: Center Crystal is Crystal Copper. PRICED & SOLD AS PAIR **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** OPEN BOX

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Arroyo Craftsman Berkley Exterior Sconce BB-6-BK-TN 12.5"H Satin Black

$ 384.00 $ 230.00

Arroyo Craftsman Berkley Exterior Sconce BB-6-BK-TN 12.5"H Satin Black Damp Rated Tan Glass Dimensions: 5.625"W x 12.5"H x 7.875"D Extension: Canopy/Back Plate Dimensions: 5" dia. Mounting Center to Top: 2.5" Bulb Type: 1-100W Medium (not included) Safety Rating: Suitable for Damp Locations  **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** OPEN BOX

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Arroyo Craftsman Berkley Exterior Sconce BB-6S-BK-TN 10.4"H Satin Black

$ 293.00 $ 176.00

Arroyo Craftsman Berkley Exterior Sconce BB-6S-BK-TN 10.4"H Satin Black Damp Rated Tan Glass Dimensions: 5.625"W x 10.375"H x 7.875"D Extension Canopy/Back Plate Dimensions: 5" dia. Mounting Center to Top: 2.5" Bulb Type: 1-60W A15 (not included) Safety Rating: Suitable for Damp Locations Finish Shown: Satin Black  **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** OPEN BOX

Artcraft AC7223CH Rialto Modern Chrome LED 3-Light Bath Lighting

$ 130.00

Artcraft AC7223CH Rialto Modern Chrome LED 3-Light Bath Lighting Chrome Finish Measures 22 inches wide, 6 inches tall, extends 3.5 inches Uses 3 5w LED bulb Included  *PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote* OPEN BOX  

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Artcraft Lighting SC237 Kingston Wall Lamp Light, Black

$ 264.00 $ 171.00

Artcraft Lighting SC237 Kingston Wall Lamp Light, Black   Beautiful Wall Bracket Light with Black finish from the ARTCRAFT Kingston Collection Body Dimensions: 8" Width, 16" Length, 9" Outside Diameter UL / CSA certified Rated for Interior Requires 1 x 100W E26 Medium Base bulbs **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight...

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Axis Large Sconce #206420-82-M-331

$ 480.00 $ 299.00

Axis Large Sconce #206420-82-M-331 If you need to pull a room's design together, our large Axis Wall Sconce will help you find your center. A handcrafted aluminum arm angles around to clasp the glass from above and below. The contrast of metal against glass provides a dash of sophistication. Direct wire wall sconce; large. Aluminum ADA Compliant. Vintage Platinum Finish...

Castleton 2-Light Domed Sconce Hubbardton Forge Reflections 202169-1000 Matte Black

$ 410.00

Castleton 2-Light Domed Sconce Hubbardton Forge Reflections 202169-1000 Matte Black The Castleton 2-Light Domed Sconce is a sleek design suitable for a wide range of kitchen or bath decor. The domed glass is secured by a metal collar and fitted to an arch. Offered in opal or clear glass. Also available with cylindrical or tapered glass shade profile options. DIMENSIONS:...

Castleton 2-Light Domed Sconce Hubbardton Forge Reflections 202169-1004 Polished Chrome

$ 410.00

Castleton 2-Light Domed Sconce Hubbardton Forge Reflections 202169-1004 Polished Chrome The Castleton 2-Light Domed Sconce is a sleek design suitable for a wide range of kitchen or bath decor. The domed glass is secured by a metal collar and fitted to an arch. Offered in opal or clear glass. Also available with cylindrical or tapered glass shade profile options. DIMENSIONS:...

Contardi Bach Small ACAM.001905 Fluted Sconce

$ 1,227.00

Contardi Bach Small ACAM.001905 Fluted Sconce The light floats in various chromatic scales like the notes played by a pipe organ. Wall fixture where the contrast between metal and Plexiglas enriches the design and underlines the sophisticated finishes. Eclectic product suitable for residential and contract projects. An hidden geometric pattern create a game of nuances and lighting effects. 8.1"wide x...

Contardi Coco Deluxe AP ACAM.000016 Mirror Sconce

$ 900.00

Contardi Coco Deluxe AP ACAM.000016 Mirror Sconce Sophisticated simplicity, just like its name. Pure shape and clean design combined to elegant materials and finishes to express GLAMOUR and EXCLUSIVITY. Classy and smart, timeless and eclectic. Finishes: Beveled Mirror within the Chrome Frame. White Cotton Percaline Fabric Shade Size: 6.2"wide x 15.7"high x 5.9"extension Lamping: 1 @ 60 Watt Max Medium...

Contardi Gea AP ACAM.000432 Chrome Etched Glass Sconce

$ 720.00

Contardi Gea AP ACAM.000432 Chrome Etched Glass Sconce Greek name that means “Earth” and the earth is reminded by the iron cast metal belt, with its matheric look and by the engraved pattern. Functional and eclectic model, for corridors and living rooms. Finishes: Brass Cast Metal Belt in Chrome with White Acid Etched Glass Shade Size: Body/Shade 5.1"wide x 4.3"deep...

Contardi Messalina ap ACAM.001718 Bronze Glass Pendant

$ 621.00

Contardi Messalina ap ACAM.001718 Bronze Glass Sconce Charming retrò shapes mixed with the magic effects created by the “metalized” glass and its transparencies. At first thought for restaurants, clubs, receptions, now it is widely placed in residential projects. Finishes: Diffusing Bronze Glass. Black Fabric Cable Cord.  Satin Bronze Metal Finish Size: Pendant Glass 5.9"diameter x 11"tall. Fixture 5.9"wide x 36"...

Contardi Quadra LED ACAM.001286 Wall Sconce

$ 860.00

Contardi Quadra TA ACAM.001286 Wall Sconce Square, simple in its variety, the first expression of Contardi’s «white shirt philosophy». The Quadra range wins for being the simplest but also the most stylish solution just as a white shirt that has been accurately made by shirtmaker. Residential, hospitality, commercial: it always fits. A solution which remains. Finishes: Satin Bronze Body with...

Contardi Uffizi AP 2 ACAM.002003 Marble Frame

$ 1,568.00

Contardi Uffizi AP 2 ACAM.002003 Marble Frame An essential, and at the same time precious lighting and ancient frame, like the marble which it is made of. The wall sconce “Uffizi” illuminates soberly and elegantly, suitable for the functional use of a lighting fixture as well as for decorating walls like an art piece. Polished Nickel & Marble 11.8"wide x...

Contardi Uffizi AP 3 ACAM.002005 Marble Frame

$ 1,453.00

Contardi Uffizi AP 3 ACAM.002005 Marble Frame An essential, and at the same time precious lighting and ancient frame, like the marble which it is made of. The wall sconce “Uffizi” illuminates soberly and elegantly, suitable for the functional use of a lighting fixture as well as for decorating walls like an art piece. Polished Nickel & Marble 11.8"wide x...

Contardi Uffizi AP ACAM.002001 Marble Frame

$ 1,568.00

Contardi Uffizi AP ACAM.002001 Marble Frame An essential, and at the same time precious lighting and ancient frame, like the marble which it is made of. The wall sconce “Uffizi” illuminates soberly and elegantly, suitable for the functional use of a lighting fixture as well as for decorating walls like an art piece. Polished Nickel & Marble 13.8"square x 17.4"tall...

Contardi Uffizi ap trio ACAM.002007

$ 3,900.00

Contardi Uffizi ap trio ACAM.002007 An essential, and at the same time precious lighting and ancient frame, like the marble which it is made of. The wall sconce “Uffizi” illuminates soberly and elegantly, suitable for the functional use of a lighting fixture as well as for decorating walls like an art piece. Polished Nickel Finish & Marble Frames 29.4"wide x...

Corbett Lighting (182-12) Geisha 2 Light Wall Sconce shown in Geisha Bronze

$ 568.00

Corbett Lighting (182-12) Geisha 2 Light Wall Sconce shown in Geisha Bronze. Specifications Overall Dimensions: 15" in height, 6.5" in width, extends 3.75", Accomodates: (2) Candelabra Base 60 watts bulb(s) Features Install Position: Wall Mount Style: Matches Contemporary/Modern Décor. PRICED & SOLD AS PAIR **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** OPEN BOX

Corbett Lighting 120-12 Karma 7 Inch Wall Sconce

$ 522.00

Corbett Lighting 120-12 Karma 7 Inch Wall Sconce The Corbett Lighting Karma 120-12 is a tropical wall sconce available in and Tranquil Bronze finish.The tropical style is sure to complement any bedroom, entry, dining room, hallway or bathroom.  Lamping: 2 Candelabra Base 40 Watt Max Height:   18.00 inches Width:   7.00 inches Depth:   4.00 inches **PLEASE note this product does not...

Corbett Lighting 184-12 Continuum 11 Inch Wide Wall Sconce.

$ 455.00

Corbett Lighting 184-12 Continuum 11 Inch Wide Wall Sconce.   Continuum creates the illusion of unbreakable, perfect rings made up of conjoined gear-like circles constructed from solid cast brass. Surrounded by crisp, natural linen double shades that conceal the source of illumination. Dimensions Height:   19.50 inches Width:   11.00 inches Depth:   4.00 inches **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping,...

Corbett Lighting 32-12 Pinot 12 Inch Wide Wall Sconce

$ 475.00

Corbett Lighting 32-12 Pinot 12 Inch Wide Wall Sconce The Corbett Lighting Pinot 32-12 is a transitional wall sconce available in and Silver Leaf finish. The transitional style is sure to complement any bedroom, entry, hallway, bathroom or living room.   Lamping: Incandescent: 2 - Candelabra Base 60 Watt Voltage:  Line Voltage (120 volts) UL Listing:  Dry Locations Height:   20.00 inches Width:   12.00...

Corbett Lighting 70-12 Cascade 2lt Wall Sconce

$ 253.00

Corbett Lighting 70-12 Cascade 2lt Wall Sconce 13" W x 14" H x 6.5" EXT 2-60w Candelabra Base Bulbs (Not Included) **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** PRICED & SOLD AS PAIR OPEN BOX

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Eurofase Euro Classics Collection 16548-015

$ 600.00 $ 180.00

Eurofase Euro Classics Collection 16548-015 Delicate details of the ringed cage update the transitional-ism found in the chain, leaf accents & ancient bronze finish. Size: 10 1/2" W x 15 1/2" T x 5" D Two 60 Watt Candelabra Base Bulbs SOLD AS PAIR ONLY **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight...

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Fine Art Lamps 115950ST Stile Bellagio 2 Light 15 inch Tortoise Leather Crackle Sconce Wall Light

$ 2,520.00 $ 1,575.00

Fine Art Lamps 115950STStile Bellagio 2 Light 15 inch Tortoise Leather Crackle Sconce Wall Light Wall sconce in tortoise leather crackle finish with stained silver leaf accents. Hand-sewn, silk shantung shades. Brand Information Brand: Fine Art Lamps  Collection: Stile Bellagio SKU: 115950ST UPC: 714318006677 Dimensions and Weight Width: 15.00 in. Height: 23.00 in. Extension/Depth: 8.00 in. Weight: 4.00 lb. Design Information Category: Wall...

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Fine Art Lamps 234450ST Castile 1 Light 9 inch Antiqued Finish Sconce Wall Light

$ 1,960.00 $ 1,274.00

Fine Art Lamps 234450STCastile 1 Light 9 inch Antiqued Finish Sconce Wall Light Wall sconce in antiqued finish. Features hand sewn silk shade with braided trim. Brand Information Brand: Fine Art Lamps Collection: Castile SKU: 234450ST Dimensions and Weight Width: 9.00 in. Height: 25.00 in. Extension/Depth: 5.00 in. Weight: 4.00 lb. Additional Details Socket PhenolicSwitch None Design Information Category: Wall Sconce Finish: Antiqued Finish...

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Fine Art Lamps 433050ST Gourmet 2 Light 16 inch Platinized Silver Sconce Wall Light

$ 3,300.00 $ 2,310.00

Fine Art Lamps 433050STGourmet 2 Light 16 inch Platinized Silver Sconce Wall Light Sconce in platinized silver finish with acanthus leaf accents. Hand-blown shades of color infused glass. Brand Information Brand: Fine Art Lamps Collection: Gourmet SKU: 433050ST Dimensions and Weight Width: 16.00 in. Height: 21.00 in. Extension/Depth: 9.00 in. Weight: 8.00 lb. Design Information Category: Wall Sconces Finish: Platinized Silver Bulb Information Bulbs...

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Fine Art Lamps 872650ST Allison Paladino 2-Light Armed Sconce

$ 1,190.00 $ 550.00

Fine Art Lamps 872650ST Allison Paladino 2-Light Armed Sconce State of the art LED sconce in silver leaf finish, created by acclaimed interior designer Allison Paladino incorporates Fine Art Lamps exclusive studio process of dichroic rough-cut sculpted glass. Each gem is lit by hidden LED highlighting a subtle dual-colored reflect. SIZE: 4.5"wide x 9.5"high x 4"extension FINISH: Silver Leaf &...

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Fine Art Lamps Casa di Campagna 1 Light Sconce in Aged Wrought Iron 208950ST

$ 1,760.00 $ 1,100.00

This 1 light Sconce from the Casa di Campagna collection by Fine Art Lamps will enhance your home with a perfect mix of form and function. The features include a Aged Wrought Iron finish applied by experts. Brand Information Brand: Fine Art Lamps Collection: Casa Di Campagna SKU: 208950ST Dimensions and Weight Width: 8.00 in. Height: 20.00 in. Extension/Depth: 7.00 in. Weight:...

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Fine Art Lamps Epicurean 1 Light Sconce in Charred Iron 407750ST

$ 2,348.00 $ 1,643.00

Fine Art Lamps Epicurean 1 Light Sconce in Charred Iron 407750ST This 1 light Sconce from the Epicurean collection by Fine Art Lamps will enhance your home with a perfect mix of form and function. The features include a Charred Iron finish applied by experts.  Brand Information Brand: Fine Art Lamps Collection: Epicurean SKU: 407750ST UPC: 714318060686 Dimensions and Weight Width: 9.00...

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Fine Art Lamps Epicurean 2 Light Sconce in Charred Iron 407850ST

$ 3,824.00 $ 2,676.00

Fine Art Lamps Epicurean 2 Light Sconce in Charred Iron 407850ST This 2 light Sconce from the Epicurean collection by Fine Art Lamps will enhance your home with a perfect mix of form and function. The features include a Charred Iron finish applied by experts. Brand Information Brand: Fine Art Lamps Collection: Epicurean SKU: 407850ST Dimensions and Weight Width: 18.00 in. Height:...

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FN 1 Baron 1 Light Wall Sconce by WPT Design

$ 595.00 $ 506.00

FN 1 Baron 1 Light Wall Sconce by WPT Design The FN collection showcases our collection of handmade California Magic Art glass. By Using a combination of exotic elements and a myriad of glass techniques, we have produced an original and whimsical, yet elegant collection of fixtures illuminated with incandescent or fluorescent lamps. Features Constructed from powder-coated steel and glass...

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FN Judy 2-Light Wall Sconce

$ 895.00 $ 761.00

FN Judy 2-Light Wall Sconce Framed by Bronze powder coated steel, the FN collection showcases our collection of handmade California Magic Art glass. By Using a combination of exotic elements and a myriad of glass techniques, we have produced an original and whimsical, yet elegant collection of fixtures illuminated with incandescent or fluorescent lamps. Handmade California Magic Art GlassFull Perforated...

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FN Judy Fuzzy 2 Light Wall Sconce by WPT Design

$ 895.00 $ 761.00

FN Judy Fuzzy 2 Light Wall Sconce by WPT Design The FN collection showcases our collection of handmade California Magic Art glass. By Using a combination of exotic elements and a myriad of glass techniques, we have produced an original and whimsical, yet elegant collection of fixtures illuminated with incandescent or fluorescent lamps.  **PLEASE note this product does not include...

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Framburg bath sconce 9533

$ 250.00 $ 169.00

Each Italian piastra glass is individually hand made and formed to mimic  a piece that would be chiseled from stone. A twisted stem and organically shaped arms complete the effect. Framburg bath sconce 9533  **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote** Open Box  

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Framburg Lighting FRA-1083-PS-EB Princessa 3-Light Sconce

$ 534.00 $ 262.00

Framburg Lighting FRA-1083-PS-EB Princessa 3-Light Sconce Framburg Lighting 3-Light Polished Silver Princessa Sconce Jewelry crystal adorns these sleek and sophisticated frames Each framburg lighting fixture is hand made in the USA Bulb Type: 3x 100 Watt Medium Rated for Indoor Use Only: Extension from Wall: 9" Height: 10" Width: 24" **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call...

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Framburg Lighting FRA-2329-MB-BM Chloe 1-Light Sconce

$ 540.00 $ 338.00

Framburg Lighting FRA-2329-MB-BM Chloe 1-Light Sconce   The diaphanous fabric mesh on these square shades allows just enough of the color and sparkle of the crystal to show through, attached to a swing arm in Chrome Each Framburg lighting product is made in the USA Bulb Not Included 1 100 Watt Medium Clear Bulb **PLEASE note this product does not...

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Fredrick Ramond FR44110FRM Barcelona 1 Light 12 inch Natural Alabaster

$ 879.00 $ 659.00

Fredrick Ramond FR44110FRM Barcelona 1 Light 12 inch Sconce Wall Light in Tinted Natural Alabaster Barcelona embodies the essence of classically influenced design featuring a French Marble finish tinted natural alabaster and faceted crystal accents. Dimensions and Weight Width: 12.00 in. Height: 23.00 in. Extension/Depth: 9.50 in. Weight: 12.00 lb. Bulb Information Bulbs Included: No Primary Bulb(s): 1 x 60.00...

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Geometrix by Schonbek MTW05JAG Matrix 5 Inch Wall Sconce

$ 2,400.00 $ 1,149.00

Geometrix by Schonbek MTW05JAG Matrix 5 Inch Wall Sconce These Matrix designs take the form of cubes and rectangles. They range from piercingly bright 3-inch squares to massive blocks of iridescent crystal that will dominate any space. A shimmering parallelogram of dense crystal, Matrix in its larger sizes has the visual impact of a contemporary sculpture. At the same time,...

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George Kovacs Lighting - P5044-077 - Tube - 20" LED Wall Sconce

$ 399.90 $ 229.00

GlassGeorge Kovacs® Tube - Bath Light #P5044-077 Bath with Chrome Finish and Etched Opal Glass George Kovacs Tube 3-Light Bath with Chrome finish is easily described as sleek, modern and sophisticated. Bold, bright and energy efficient, Tube strikes a perfect balance. This fixture needs to be hardwired. Professional installation is recommended. 20.5"w x 4.75"h x 4.25"ext Uses 3-60-Watt G9 Xenon...

Gluc Wall/Ceiling Light By Arturo Alvarez, GLO-05-02-N

$ 1,228.00

Gluc Wall/Ceiling Light, GLO-05-02-N By Arturo Alvarez A bubbly grouping stirring memories of 1970s retro style forms the Arturo Alvarez Gluc Wall/Ceiling Light. Details: Designed by Arturo Alvarez Material: Glass with a nickel-plated steel support Single bubble signed by Arturo Álvarez White glass spheres ADA compliant UL Listed Made In Spain Lighting: Three 40 Watt (500 Lumens) 120 Volt G9...

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Golden Lighting C148-W1-CH Chrome Nan 1 Light ADA Compliant Bathroom Sconce

$ 304.00 $ 202.00

Golden Lighting C148-W1-CH Chrome Nan 1 Light ADA Compliant Bathroom Sconce Nan 1 Light Wall Sconce in Chrome with Optic Glass Modern, contemporary style Features beautiful blocks of precision-cut K-9 crystal Refracted light from crystals reflected in chrome backplate Sleek lines and gleaming Chrome finish Cover plate included Bulb included UL approved for damp locations Height: 13" Width: 3.25" (measured...

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Golden Lighting C148-WSC-CH-WH Nan Chrome Halogen Wall Light Sconce

$ 429.98 $ 198.00

Golden Lighting C148-WSC-CH-WH Nan Chrome Halogen Wall Light Sconce Dimensions: 9.75W x 4.88D x 14.5H in.. Shade Dimensions: 9.5W x 4.75D x 6.63H in.. Upward facing light. Chrome finish with white fabric shade. Requires one 40-watt halogen bulb ... PRICED & SOLD AS PAIR **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote**...

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Hammerton Studio IDB0019-11-FB-B Uptown Mesh Wall Sconce **OPEN BOX**

$ 595.00 $ 506.60

Hammerton Studio IDB0019-11-FB-B Uptown Mesh Wall Sconce A wall sconce of elegance and sophistication, the Uptown Mesh Wall Sconce features a unique woven steel mesh exterior. Bold in its cool metal design, yet soft in its elegant sleek artisan frost glass shade, the Uptown Mesh Wall Sconce is the perfect space-saving lighting fixture for any modern and elegant space. Fit...

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Hammerton Studio ODB0030-31-Glass Outdoor Single Light 31" High Flush Mount Wall

$ 1,498.00 $ 995.00

Hammerton Studio ODB0030-31-Glass Outdoor Single Light 31" High Flush Mount Wall Two inches wider than our outdoor square cover sconce and with similar options, this half round sconce makes a big design statement. Hand textured, kiln-fused glass is paired with ruggedly durable aluminum construction that’s marine-grade pre-treated and guaranteed to last for as long as you own the fixture. Available...

Hammerton Studio Textured Glass Wall Sconce IDB0044-18-BS-F **OPEN BOX**

$ 820.00

Hammerton Studio Textured Glass Wall Sconce IDB0044-18-BS-F Each Textured Glass fixture requires skilled artisan precision and two kiln passes to achieve its unique visual appeal. Finish: Metallic Beige Silver, Frosted Granite Glass Lamping: 1X 60Watt Medium Base Socket Dimensions: 5.8"w x 17"h x 7.5"ext **PLEASE note this product does not include shipping, please call 949-831-7600 for an accurate freight quote**...

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Helios Sconce FR 43912 SLF Pair

$ 436.00 $ 298.00

Helios Sconce FR 43912 SLF The transitional 1 Light Helios Sconce is part of the Helios collection by Hinkley Lighting. Type: Sconce Location: Dry Height: 9.25" Width: 9.5" Extension: 4" Weight: 4.5 lbs Total Bulbs: 1 Bulbs: 1 60W Max Incandescent Candelabra Base (Incandescent Models) Safety Rating: C-US Dry Rated ADA: Yes Material: Steel Silver Leaf Finish PRICED & SOLD...

Hinkley 2635OB Bolla 19'' Olde Bronze Outdoor Wall Mount, Light Amber Seedy Glass

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Hinkley 2635OB Bolla 19" Olde Bronze Outdoor Wall Mount, Light Amber Seedy Glass The graceful lines of Bolla create a soft elegance, while the solid brass construction and heavy cast ball transitions add to its innovative style. Finish: Olde Bronze Width: 11.00 in. Height: 18.75 in. Extension/Depth: 12.50 in. 3-40 Watt Max Candelabra Socket Material: Solid Brass  **PLEASE note this...